Stephen Marche is the author of On Writing and Failure: Or, On the Peculiar Perseverance Required to Endure the Life of a Writer, a clever little book on the horrors writers faced - and face - while creating their work. In this episode, we talked to Stephen about the sadness of Herman Melville and how none of us are ever really successful.
Our theme music is by Policy AKA Mark Buchwald. (https://freemusicarchive.org/music/policy/)
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